# Arbitrum Offsite format: online vs IRL **URL:** \ **Category:** Finalized AIPs\ **Tags:** proposal\ **Created:** [September 4, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrum-offsite-format-online-vs-irl/26629 "2024-09-04T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![danielo](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/danielo/32/5539_2.png) [@danielo](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/danielo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 5:13am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrum-offsite-format-online-vs-irl/26629/2 "2024-09-06T05:13:29Z")
> [@ArbitrumDAO Off-site - Directional proposal](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrumdao-off-site-directional-proposal/25660/56): > > I think IRL events are necessary to better coordinate actions and planning of any DAO. I’m making these questions on both posts, to get a better understanding: > > What are the main differences (in terms of the event itself) between this proposal and the [GovHack](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/govhack-core-series-hack-humanity/26634/)? - specially the “Core Series” > > Both initiatives are targeting DevCon. Does it make sense to have both events? > > Is there a way to merge both initiatives if they are complementary? > > Thanks for the proposal! Thanks for the question @jameskbh I think in essence both proposals are rather different, but it might not make sense to fund them both at this point in time. # Where I see the difference: **Objective:** - Hack Humanity requests funding for delivering events and a yearly salary for Klaus, where the focus is on the IRL component. - RnDAO’s proposal focuses on a strategic process of alignment (which could be piloted fully online or mixed online and IRL, as per the delegates’ choice). In that sense, the deliverables of our proposal are about strategic alignment. The event part is a tool to achieve strategic alignment, not the core deliverable. **Scope:** - Hack Humanity is proposing multiple events, and each event with the same recurring format of 3 days that include Panels, AMAs, Tracks, etc. In that sense it’s more of a series of hackathons following what they did for GovHack. Also, the GovHack Core is planned for events of 3 full days. - RnDAO is focused on a single initiative with a narrower focus on strategic alignment. In that sense, we offer a shorter-term engagement that can then be renewed or not, iterated, etc. The format is flexible and will be decided via a snapshot vote this coming week. If IRL is selected, we’ve also focused on shorter events to ensure delegates can more easily accommodate them. **Budget:** Hard to compare as we’re talking about different things - HackHumanity: 3 IRL events - RnDAO: a strategic process with (optional) an IRL event component I tried to create a budget comparison table here: [Comparison hack Humanity & RnDAO - Google Sheets](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19IFqa58A-bTKGpN6hymyGTqE4uI2BIf2lHejzLEFmAg/edit?usp=sharing) I hope this helps the discussion --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrum-offsite-format-online-vs-irl/26629)._