# Arbitrum Offsite format: online vs IRL **URL:** \ **Category:** Finalized AIPs\ **Tags:** proposal\ **Created:** [September 4, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrum-offsite-format-online-vs-irl/26629 "2024-09-04T14:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 47
**Author:** ![KlausBrave](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/klausbrave/32/5226_2.png) [@KlausBrave](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/KlausBrave)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrum-offsite-format-online-vs-irl/26629/47 "2024-09-19T01:48:42Z")
Cross-posting my answer on divergent vs convergent as a distinction to differentiate the proposals is a **false equivalence and not valid** : > [@ArbitrumDAO Off-site - Directional proposal](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrumdao-off-site-directional-proposal/25660/63): > > Divergent vs convergent are steps in facilitation of a longer process that starts online and continues in person. It is a false equivalence to attempt to differentiate the 2 proposals on this distinction as the final outputs for the Core track are convergent. The Core work starts in the online 4-week onramp, on the IRL day it starts with whole group work, breakout steps to avoid group think, then individual and small group work is assembled into whole group work with final convergent decisions… @Griff --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/arbitrum-offsite-format-online-vs-irl/26629)._