# \[DIP v1.0\]Delegate Incentive Program Questions and Feedback

**URL:** <https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946>\
**Category:** Delegate Incentives Program (DIP)\
**Created:** [January 30, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946 "2024-01-30T03:23:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![EzR3aL](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/ezr3al/32/14760_2.png) [@EzR3aL](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/EzR3aL)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/63 "2024-07-13T21:13:48Z")

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I would like to add a comment here.  
There will soon be the re delegation week which you could use to present yourself in order to get delegations.  
Me personally I don’t think it’s the right way to ask for delegations from the Arbitrum foundation just to receive the monthly rewards.  
If someone wants to be a delegate it is their job to do “marketing” for themselves. If no one is delegating to you it’s either because you are too new and nobody knows about you or you just don’t represent what people would like to see when they choose who they delegate their token to.  
Looking at your profile you aren’t even 1 month old, so I would suggest to reach out to holder in public, use the Re delegation week and work hard to get those delegations.  
If anybody could come here and get 50k token from the foundation there is no benefit and real incentive to work hard as a delegate.

And to answer your question about the program, just recently there was a thread created to continue that program. So it will likely at least be active till end of year.

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**Author:** ![cp0x](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/cp0x/32/5455_2.png) [@cp0x](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/cp0x)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/64 "2024-07-15T04:15:59Z")

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The part of answer for your question is my proposal about continuation of this program

> [@Delegate Incentive Program Extension](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/delegate-incentive-program-extension/25494):
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> Proposal: Delegate Incentive Program Extension Abstract August is the last month of the Delegate Incentive Program. Despite the fact that it is too early to draw conclusions, I would like to suggest in advance that this program be continued with the current budget. Motivation 1,580,000 ARB were allocated for this program. At the moment, there are [1,224,000 ARB left there](https://arbiscan.io/address/0xff1f38f8cdae7c1b1b289fcf6f5c1aa234df1443). Taking into account payments for 3 months, the cost of incentives for delegates amounts to 120,000 ARB per month on avera…

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**Author:** ![Ignas](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/ignas/32/11301_2.png) [@Ignas](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Ignas)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/65 "2024-08-19T10:58:02Z")

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Hello everyone,

I’m excited to see Arbitrum focusing on building a more decentralized and robust DAO through its incentive program, but I believe this program misses the mark.

The mission’s goal should be to attract new delegates, yet the current program merely rewards the already active DAO delegates

With the criteria set at 50k ARB (which isn’t much), only 175 delegates can qualify for the incentive program. Furthermore, it requires a historical participation rate of over 25%.

This criterion excludes new potential delegates like me from joining the incentive program. As a result, the program fails to decentralize the DAO and only rewards past participants.

I hope to see the DAO’s efforts become more inclusive in the future.

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**Author:** ![axlvaz\_SEEDLATAM.eth](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/axlvaz_seedlatam.eth/32/14779_2.png) [@axlvaz\_SEEDLATAM.eth](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/axlvaz_SEEDLATAM.eth)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/66 "2024-08-19T12:29:57Z")

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> [@Ignas](#):
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> The mission’s goal should be to attract new delegates, yet the current program merely rewards the already active DAO delegates

The goal of the program is the following:

> [@Response to Arbitrum Staking Proposal (ARDC Research Deliverable)](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/response-to-arbitrum-staking-proposal-ardc-research-deliverable/26048/6):
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> We would like to mention that from our perspective the Delegate Incentive System (DIS) focuses on improving participation in governance more qualitatively than quantitatively. This means that in the first instance, one of the main goals of the program is to professionalize delegates so they can keep focusing on building for ArbitrumDAO.

We believe that other systems can be developed which are better suited to attract new delegates and will complement this in the future. Note that not all of the 175 are active delegates. We believe that professionalizing delegates makes the DAO more resistant to governance attacks.

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**Author:** ![cp0x](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/cp0x/32/5455_2.png) [@cp0x](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/cp0x)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/67 "2024-08-22T22:36:52Z")

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Thank you for your feedback, but I don’t quite agree with it.

1. 50k ARB is currently only about $25k. Considering that a delegate can theoretically receive 5,000 x 6 = 30,000 for their work over six months of the program. In terms of investment, this is an excellent approach.
2. 175 delegates are currently eligible, indeed, but they constitute the majority when voting. If the threshold is significantly lowered, then servicing such a program will cost significant funds, which will go towards servicing, not incentives - there should be a golden mean in everything.
3. 25% of voting participation is a small threshold that any delegate can overcome in a couple of months.
4. I would be grateful if you suggest how to attract new delegates. I am almost certain that a significant reduction in thresholds will only attract sybils.

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**Author:** ![Blueweb](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/blueweb/32/6133_2.png) [@Blueweb](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Blueweb)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/68 "2024-08-24T14:25:31Z")

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> [@cp0x](#):
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> I would be grateful if you suggest how to attract new delegates. I am almost certain that a significant reduction in thresholds will only attract sybils.

I agree with the last point, 25% historical participation also guards from Sybil attacks.

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**Author:** ![EzR3aL](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/ezr3al/32/14760_2.png) [@EzR3aL](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/EzR3aL)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 10:20am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/69 "2024-08-27T10:20:18Z")

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I have this problem since beginning.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/arbitrum1/original/2X/f/f5b6f4cd4bb9a8402f3598a1efcfd81324e6d0f7.png)

As you can see in the picture the CR is only 6/7 although I have commented on every proposal besides those 2 non-constitutional.  
Which one am i missing? Looking at other delegates they have those 2 proposal too and still got 100% CR.

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**Author:** ![Mehdi\_eth](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/mehdi_eth/32/16244_2.png) [@Mehdi\_eth](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Mehdi_eth)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 7:00am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/70 "2024-09-05T07:00:16Z")

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Gm @SEEDGov  
would you please tell me why My Rationales have not been indexed like other delegates? and Why I have been given 0 Points although I provided My Rationale?

 ![Screenshot 2024-09-05 at 10.26.10](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/arbitrum1/original/2X/1/1f1070e862230fe1414a79ad171ed5a489de2b9b.png)

and why I Cant add my rationale here?

 ![Screenshot 2024-09-05 at 10.34.15](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/arbitrum1/original/2X/1/1b5a78ffa54f12b257d7fbb93d7705cb0ede544d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![cp0x](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/cp0x/32/5455_2.png) [@cp0x](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/cp0x)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/71 "2024-09-06T19:01:40Z")

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About August results:  
Can you tell me what exactly I didn’t comment on?  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/arbitrum1/original/2X/1/119adedc98cd68979feccbb8f10b637ee9bd75bc.png)

I don’t remember missing any discussion

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**Author:** ![SEEDGov](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/seedgov/32/14560_2.png) [@SEEDGov](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/SEEDGov)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/72 "2024-09-15T22:14:50Z")

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Hey cp0x! As stated in the proposal:

> ### Dispute
> 
> Delegates have a 2-day window to dispute if they disagree with the results presented by the Incentive System Administrator.
> 
> To raise a dispute, they must do so via a forum post with the following template:
> 
> - Title: Dispute
> - Username
> - Reason for dispute (be detailed)

Also, don’t forget to publish your dispute in the Forum Post with the corresponding monthly results.

> - **Commenting Proposal (CP) - Weight 15:** Percentage of proposals where the delegate asked questions or generated important discussion for the advancement of the proposal. This parameter is reset at the beginning of each month.
> - **Tn:** Total number of formal proposals posted on the forum.
> - **Rn:** Number of actual proposals where the delegate made a genuine and quality contribution. Spam messages will not be considered.
> - **CP% formula: (CP(Rn) / CP(Tn)) \* 15**

As stated in our public calculations, Gaming Catalyst Program (GCP) Council Voting is the one which has not a high impact comment.

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**Author:** ![Tane](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/tane/32/3187_2.png) [@Tane](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Tane)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/73 "2024-09-26T19:15:23Z")

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Hi @SEEDGov!

Any considerations for voting participation in the Security Council nominee selections (and actual selections in the future)?

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**Author:** ![Larva](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/larva/32/1896_2.png) [@Larva](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Larva)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/75 "2024-10-01T00:39:58Z")

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Hey @SEEDGov! I have the same question like [EzR3aL](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/69). I actually have posted my all voting reasons.  
Could you please tell me why I posted my voting reasons for all proposals and attached them to the snapshot and tally, but my CR never got full scores? Will you review these reasons and consider whether they are reasonable before deciding whether they can be included in CR?  
Or I missed something to complete?  
Thanks!

 ![3f793ae179e971abac22a131bf865208](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/arbitrum1/original/2X/e/e791a4f788e2328e84b389676eb30b1e21bffeae.png)

> [@Larva Delegate Communication Thread](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/larva-delegate-communication-thread/24476/68):
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> September Voting Summary 2024-08-31T16:00:00Z (UTC) - 2024-09-29T16:00:00Z (UTC) Snapshot 1.Voting 2024-09-01T00:00:00Z (UTC) [Snapshot] [[Constitutional] Extend Delay on L2Time Lock](https://snapshot.org/#/arbitrumfoundation.eth/proposal/0x75d1aff7adb317bb629a334fba748fdd6ddac5ba1e64870b8abb4a12d6ed5a6f) - Voted For I totally support the proposal because it’s beneficial to improve the security of Arbitrum network. [My comments in original proposal](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/constitutional-extend-delay-on-l2time-lock/26470/11) 2.Voting 2024-09-01T00:00:00Z (UTC) [Snapshot] [STIP-Bridge Operational Budget](https://snapshot.org/#/arbitrumfoundation.eth/proposal/0x92b4ac07fbadbb32c30f502880c4dfb1c4882c32d6ae84c2307f9f01dec079c7) - Voted For I votded FOR because this is a reasonable cost! 3.Voting 2024-09-01T00:0…

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**Author:** ![cp0x](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/cp0x/32/5455_2.png) [@cp0x](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/cp0x)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/76 "2024-10-02T21:27:45Z")

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I can easily explain it to you: Karma does not count these indicators instantly. It often happens that the count goes up to the 6th or 7th.  
If you see - almost everyone is in this situation now

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**Author:** ![SEEDGov](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/seedgov/32/14560_2.png) [@SEEDGov](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/SEEDGov)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/77 "2024-10-02T21:59:11Z")

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Hey guys, thanks you all for your patience.

> [@Mehdi\_eth](#):
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> Gm @SEEDGov  
> would you please tell me why My Rationales have not been indexed like other delegates? and Why I have been given 0 Points although I provided My Rationale?

> [@Larva](#):
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> Could you please tell me why I posted my voting reasons for all proposals and attached them to the snapshot and tally, but my CR never got full scores?

We take some time to double-check the data and ensure it is correct. That’s why indexing comments can take some time. When complete, we make a [forum post](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/delegate-incentive-program-results-august-2024/26669) with the results

> [@Larva](#):
>
> Will you review these reasons and consider whether they are reasonable before deciding whether they can be included in CR?  
> Or I missed something to complete?

Remember that once the monthly results are published you can always raise a dispute.

> ### Dispute
> 
> Delegates have a 2-day window to dispute if they disagree with the results presented by the Incentive System Administrator.
> 
> To raise a dispute, they must do so via a forum post with the following template:
> 
> - Title: Dispute
> - Username
> - Reason for dispute (be detailed)

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**Author:** ![Mehdi\_eth](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/mehdi_eth/32/16244_2.png) [@Mehdi\_eth](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Mehdi_eth)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/78 "2024-10-02T22:15:53Z")

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Thanks! By the way, is it okay to edit our rationale posts? I made some edits to add more detail, but I’m not sure how that affects points or integrity.

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**Author:** ![Larva](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/larva/32/1896_2.png) [@Larva](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Larva)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/79 "2024-10-03T01:34:43Z")

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Alright, thank you very much!

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**Author:** ![Larva](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/larva/32/1896_2.png) [@Larva](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Larva)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/80 "2024-10-03T01:35:21Z")

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Indeed. Thank you for the explanation.

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**Author:** ![Bob-Rossi](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/bob-rossi/32/873_2.png) [@Bob-Rossi](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/Bob-Rossi)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/81 "2024-10-14T18:04:16Z")

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Will governance call attendance be automatically counted or do we have to report attendance somewhere? And if we have to report, how would you like to show proof of attendance?

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**Author:** ![danielM](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/danielm/32/12873_2.png) [@danielM](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/danielM)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/82 "2024-10-18T22:50:46Z")

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Can somebody tell me: what it means \* **Delegates’ Feedback (DF):** The weight of this parameter has increased from 15% to 30%. Where I can leave Delegates’ Feedback?

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**Author:** ![EzR3aL](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.arbitrum.foundation/ezr3al/32/14760_2.png) [@EzR3aL](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/u/EzR3aL)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/dip-v1-0-delegate-incentive-program-questions-and-feedback/20946/83 "2024-10-19T19:35:04Z")

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Does someone else have the problem that he/she is not able to see where CR is missing?  
Months before I could check it and see if I really missed to communicate or if it was an error. Now I cannot click the CR anymore and verfiy.

**This is how it was before.**

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/arbitrum1/original/2X/f/f5b6f4cd4bb9a8402f3598a1efcfd81324e6d0f7.png)

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/arbitrum1/original/2X/d/d84ecd11dea9c9ea8763dc4e11f02561db8c081f.png)  
**This is the status quo.**  
I am not able to verify if the data shown is correct or not. Also checked If i can still see previous months, but its also missing now.

And as I am pretty sure 8/17 is wrong, im not able to check.

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