What If AI Models Lived Onchain? Exploring a Bold New Frontier with Arbitrum Stylus

[0xredacted]

@Argonaut

Thank you for the proposal. We find it innovative and believe that, if communicated effectively, it could bring benefits to the DAO. However, we have some observations:

1. Timelines and budget: If you cannot meet the proposed timelines, will you request additional funding, or will you continue working with the same budget until completion? This should be clarified to ensure that approved proposals are successfully executed.

Thank you for your thoughtful feedback and for seeing the potential benefits of the proposal for the DAO. I appreciate your observations.

Regarding your question about timelines and budget: If we find that we cannot meet the proposed timelines, we are committed to completing the project within the same budget. We will not request additional funding. Instead, we’ll adjust our approach and allocate our resources efficiently to ensure we deliver the promised outcomes.

Our priority is to responsibly manage the resources provided and to maintain transparency with the DAO throughout the project’s execution. If any delays or significant changes arise, we’ll promptly communicate them to keep everyone informed and to discuss the best way forward.

I’m confident that with careful planning and open communication, we’ll successfully execute the proposal.

[0xredacted]

@Argonaut

Amounts in ARB: The amounts are listed in dollars, but it should be specified that they will be paid in ARB, as is standard for all proposals.

Thank you for pointing that out! You’re absolutely correct. We’ll update the proposal to reflect the budget in ARB . We appreciate your attention to detail and are making that adjustment right away. Thanks again for your support!

[0xredacted]

@Argonaut

Publication of results: Will the results be published on the forum? What is the estimated timeframe for publication upon completion? We suggest monthly updates to keep the community informed and a final evaluation a few months after completion to assess success.

Thank you for highlighting this important aspect! Yes, we absolutely plan to publish the results on the forum to keep the community informed. We’ll provide monthly updates throughout the project to share our progress, achievements, and any challenges we encounter.

Upon completion, we’ll release a comprehensive final report detailing the outcomes and insights gained from the project. We’re also open to conducting a final evaluation a few months after completion to assess the success and impact of our work.

Regular communication is crucial, and we value the community’s involvement every step of the way.

[0xredacted]

@Argonaut

1. Timeline error: There seems to be an error in the timeline; voting periods start on Thursdays each week.

We appreciate your attention to these points to strengthen the proposal.

Thank you for catching that error in the timeline! We’ll adjust the proposal to reflect this.

We’ll ensure all dates align correctly with the voting schedule. Thank you again for your attention to detail. we appreciate your help in strengthening the proposal!

[0xredacted]

@thedevanshmehta

@0xredacted

I’ve seen the Trailblazer AI Grant Program, and it’s a fantastic initiative for supporting AI projects within the community. However, the program has a cap of $10,000 per project, which isn’t sufficient for the scale of our proposal.

Even if the amount is small, i request you to apply for it so we know that you have passed some basic level of vetting.

Ideally, I would be more comfortable voting for this proposal and the larger amounts if you have already got $10k from the AF and passed their basic screening. Otherwise, I find it hard to trust a team with $200k based on little prior information except a Twitter account that posts about stylus. Even if the idea is good, why are you the best one to implement it?

We completely understand your concerns, and we appreciate your honesty. We’re open to receiving funds in stages—only upon the completion of each milestone. This way, we would receive funding after delivering the agreed-upon results, ensuring accountability and creating a win-win situation for everyone.

we will be hiring new team members to bring this project to life, we’ll be transparent about who is involved as we build the team. We believe that by showing our commitment and being open about our team and progress, we can build the trust needed to move forward.

Thank you for your feedback. We’re dedicated to making this project a success and are eager to work together to achieve our shared goals.

[0xredacted]

@Amira

truly appreciate the initiative to build infrastructure for onboarding AI models on Arbitrum. However, I believe the real measure of success will be attracting developers to build and deploy AI models on this infrastructure. Achieving this would require robust marketing efforts to raise awareness and inspire developers to choose Arbitrum over other chains.

How do you propose we approach this? Additionally, how does this fit into the competitive landscape, especially considering that other L2s (example Mode Network) are significantly shifting their narrative toward AI agents?

Thank you for your thoughtful feedback! I completely agree that the real measure of success will be in attracting developers to build and deploy AI models on this infrastructure. To achieve this, we plan to implement a robust outreach and engagement strategy:

• Community Engagement: We’ll host workshops, webinars, and hackathons to introduce developers to our framework and showcase its capabilities. These events will provide hands-on experience and encourage collaboration.
• Developer Incentives: Offering grants, bounties, and rewards for innovative projects built on our infrastructure to motivate developers to get involved.
• Partnerships: We’ll collaborate with universities, developer communities, and influential figures in the AI and blockchain spaces to expand our reach and credibility.
• Marketing Efforts: Utilizing social media, blogs, and industry conferences to raise awareness about the opportunities our platform offers.
• Comprehensive Resources: Providing excellent documentation, tutorials, and support to make it easy for developers to get started, even if they’re new to AI or Rust.

Regarding the competitive landscape, we’re aware that other L2s like Mode Network are shifting toward AI agents. However, we believe that Arbitrum’s unique capabilities with Stylus and the ability to use Rust give us a significant advantage. Our focus is on creating a developer-friendly environment that offers efficiency and scalability for on-chain AI applications.

By proactively engaging with the developer community and highlighting the strengths of Arbitrum, we aim to position it as the go-to platform for on-chain AI. We’re excited about the potential and are committed to fostering an ecosystem where innovation thrives.

Thanks again for your input!

[kuiclub]

The proposal is very forward-thinking, leveraging Stylus and Rust to enhance Arbitrum’s technical influence. However, I find the connection between the budget details and the expected outcomes a bit unclear. For instance, could the outcomes include some quantifiable metrics to provide a clearer picture of success?

[Ignas]

I think this is a promising proposal, and Arbitrum can expand their blockchain use cases with verifiable AI. However, I’m a bit concerned about security. With AI running on the blockchain, are there any security risks we should be worried about? Is there any mechanism in place to prevent these AI models from being exploited or misused by third parties? Also, I’m not sure what long-term benefits Arbitrum will gain from this.

[CastleCapital]

Thank you @0xredacted for this interesting proposal. While we like the idea of an open-source framework for projects to utilize in building AI agents. We have a few questions.

Can you provide your Github with past completed work for review? We agree with @KlausBrave that there isn’t much information provided to give us confidence that you are the right person/team to fund for this.

We share @Ignas’s thoughts. What are the potential security implications of enabling this tooling for development on Arbitrum?

@Ignas

However, I’m a bit concerned about security. With AI running on the blockchain, are there any security risks we should be worried about?

We would be supportive of disbursement in tranches and we see that you’re acceptable to those terms as well. For this proposal to go through, you’ll need:

i. to prove that you can carry out the project as planned
ii. update the proposal to take into account disbursement in tranches
iii. provide insights into the potential downsides / risks (possibly can be covered in the feasibility)

Thank you for providing very detailed replies to the questions that have been asked so far and we look forward to seeing if this proposal can pass the DAO and necessary evaluations. Good luck!

[0x_ultra]

Hey @0xredacted , thank you for your reply! While I understand your point of view, I still believe that attracting more applications is more valuable than focusing on specific AI groundwork. What makes one’s groundwork better than another? With an open application we could have multiple “groundwork” submissions exploring different approaches and once everything is submitted one can decide whats the best direction, and at the same time if some find useful what others submitted they can elaborate and innovate on the rest. I’m a big fan of letting the market decide what’s best and maximising options.
Moreover, another benefit of open calls is that they bring more eyes to Arbitrum’s development and ecosystem, which is always a good thing. That said, I really like your idea but maybe we should consider a balanced approach that combines both strategies.

[duokongcrypto]

Thank you for providing such detailed responses to the questions raised so far. We look forward to seeing whether this proposal can pass through the DAO and the necessary evaluations. I personally think, and suggest, that you consider applying for funding in batches and executing in phases. This approach allows the community to monitor project progress in real-time while ensuring transparency and efficient use of funds.

Additionally, you could introduce internal audits first. Internal audits can identify and resolve fundamental issues early on, thereby reducing the workload and complexity of external audits. This not only helps save costs but also improves overall audit efficiency.

[kuiclub]

Here’s the translation，After reviewing the recent updates, I have a few questions:

1. Running AI models on-chain may introduce more complex security risks, such as issues related to the privacy of computational data. Are there plans to allocate additional time and budget for security testing? The contingency fund is only $5,000, which seems relatively low. If unforeseen technical challenges arise, such as the need for more resources to optimize AI models, will this amount be sufficient?

Suggestions:

• Increase the contingency fund: Consider raising it from $5,000 to $10,000, making it 5% of the total budget, to address potential unforeseen technical challenges or delays.

2. Have you considered launching a “developer incentive program or collaborative initiative, such as rewarding the first 10 developers to deploy projects on the framework with additional incentives? This could rapidly accelerate ecosystem development.

Suggestions:

• Establish a long-term incentive fund (e.g., $20,000) to support community developers in building open-source tools or extension modules. Additionally, consider hosting activities like regular online/offline workshops or hackathons (in collaboration with EthGlobal) to help developers onboard the framework more efficiently.

• Launch collaborative projects with existing DeFi or NFT initiatives to showcase practical use cases of the AI framework, such as on-chain prediction markets or dynamic NFTs.