Proposal: [Non-Constitutional] Funding for Into the Dungeons: Machinata - a PvP Digital Miniature Game V2

[thechaingamer.eth]

@thedevanshmehta

have voted against this proposal in the initial snapshot check. Nothing personal, i think this looks like a great project

I’m just not fully there yet on DAO funding of specific ventures. I think this would reduce the incentive for drafting a more comprehensive ecosystem support program, as teams would prefer applying directly for themselves rather than helping out with governance and creating these structures. And since the DAO doesnt have paid staff to create these programs, we have to rely on selfish interest of teams that would benefit to create them

Thank you. I’m glad you think ITD looks promising.

Also, no offense taken at you voting against it. I will say, I personally think the argument is somewhat flawed and I’ll share my thoughts here for folks to consider.

The crux of your argument is that if something like my proposal passes, people will stop trying to create a framework (“more comprehensive ecosystem support program” is just a much longer way of saying it) for such projects, which are basically development projects. Why? Because people are selfish.

Here is why I disagree.

1. Saying we will not have any progress on frameworks because people will stop working on them if they see a direct proposal to the DAO getting approved doesn’t make sense to me. If a direct development proposal gets approved, it can actually be used as part of the argument of needing a specific framework to scale a “Developer Grant Program” and encourage more builders to build in Arbitrum.

2. The selfishness aspect is one that can exist in every single proposal, whether it is a proposal for frameworks or individual proposals. What needs to be evaluated is the following - are there aligned incentives? If the answer to that question is yes, that is what matters. Every team will want their project to succeed. The success of the project should be directly tied to the health and growth of the ecosystem, in this case, Arbitrum. As long as that is happening, there is no disconnect. That is the ultimate goal of the DAO.

In conclusion, this is not a zero-sum game. Direct project funding and the creation of frameworks are complementary forces that will propel the ecosystem forward. If we become so rigid that we refuse to ever look at things outside the context of frameworks, well, then we need to take a step back and rethink what we are doing. There is value in using direct DAO funding to experiment and learn what works, what does not. This is information that can be applied to improving frameworks.

Thank you for the comment, because I really believe this is an important discussion to have.

Best,
Ali